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the Hardest parts of Hapkido???
that the best way is to move in close to make the opponent grab/clinch or to move in and trap the jab arm maybe under your own chin while stepping past the opponent and shooting for the arm bar or arm drag...
Where are you having the most trouble ?
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Permalink Reply by Daniel McCullar on -
I have seen way to many unrealistic defenses from a jab.
In using punch defense techniques that go into joint manipulation and control, we teach from a rear/rear power strike.
Defending from a jab. What I teach and my Gm is to use elbows as counters, circular movement to get out of the way and close the gap for a counter attack, and as long as you keep the proper distance you can counter with redirection into a follow through.
But as I tell all my students, learning and judging your distant relationship is solely their responsibility.
One should always stay approx 6 inches outside of your opponents striking range. You need to take into account their legs and their possible ability to quickly close the gap. Any closer and you risk not having the time you need to defend. If you are within your opponents striking range then you better be fighting. To be inside their range and doing nothing is putting yourself in danger.
If you try and maintain your defensive range (opponents striking range plus 6 inches) and they continually try and close the gap, then they are showing their intent to be aggressive and attack.
Anything within the defensive range is your combative range. This is solely offensive. You are to close to defend against jabs with the exception of a guard and elbow driving.
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Permalink Reply by Dean Yates on -
Your legs are longer than any opponents arms, so why ever let them encroach upon your territory, you should never box a boxer or you will lose. believe me this is true he is a master of his trade and you are not. so to beat him you must take him out of his comfort zone by extending your distance so that your legs become your tools to take him out as they are longer than his arms... dealeag him by kicking to his thighs so as to deaden hi leg
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Permalink Reply by Fred Stauffer on -
I believe the hardest part of Hapkido is not an individual technique at all...it's the discipline to train consistently.
Now, as far as the short jab, I believe the power of hapkido comes from it's adaptive nature and using the tools that fit the situation. I agree, never fight the other person's fight; however, adapt and flow with the person to draw them in to your strengths. If someone is punching short, I would move to a longer range to wear them down until I have advantage to employ a technique. If a person is kicking, I would move inside their range and go short. I don't consider myself the strongest grappler so for me, I work to get back to my feet as quickly as possible. I do believe you need to train all ranges in case you are forced to using them.
It's been a while, but I'm back. ;-)
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Permalink Reply by Kris McCullar on -
The only reason i would attempt to move in so close is my grappling technique alows me to take the boxer to the ground, where i know i would ne at advantage. Lets not forget the boxer even though uses short jabs can also cover distance fast and ussualy has the to have the best cardio
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Permalink Reply by Jason Landaas on -
If I was in a competition then I would agree taking the boxer to the ground if you have superior grappling skills would be a valid strategy. However, if I was in the street intentionally going to the ground might prove to be less than wise. There are too many unknowns in the street. Did he have friends, a gun, a knife, etc.... The totality of the circumstance must be taken into account.
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Permalink Reply by Daniel McCullar on
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Fighting whilst drunk!
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Permalink Reply by Kris McCullar on
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yes that is tough!
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Permalink Reply by Dean Yates on
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only ever fought drunk and that was when i was young .my advice is use your best technique ,i.e. the one you can do in your sleep. hit hard and hope for the best & if you win say it was all planned ha hasar
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Sogor on -
This is going to sound sarcastic, but why are you the fighters range in the first place? Anyone that even squares up to fight means you were not observant enough to get out of the range, or just leave altogether.
But seriously, cover and kick, or kick and cover - can't really stop a jab - unless you intentionally block with your face.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Elic on -
Well in hapkido we use all that we have. that means use the proper stance, open or closed. Trapping is the best option. This is similar to jeet kun do. But the key is to be smooth.
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Permalink Reply by Jason Landaas on
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This is why in addtion to my Hapkido I also train in Jeet Kune Do and Wing Chun. To me they have the best approach to dealing with short jabs.
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